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Suzanne's Old Fashioned Pumpkin Pie

Suzanne's Old Fashioned Pumpkin Pie

My friend Suzanne performed an experiment with her family and me. She baked two pumpkin pies, one using the purée and recipe from a can, the other using purée she made from a ripe sugar pumpkin. Each of us received two slices, one from each pie, without knowing which was which. The winner? The adults clearly preferred the pie made from scratch - it had a richer flavor (possibly due in part to added spices). One child preferred the pie made from the canned purée, the other two had no preference. Needless to say, everyone finished both of their slices, and the whipped cream too!

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Suzanne's Old Fashioned Pumpkin Pie Recipe

Ingredients

  • 2 cups of pumpkin pulp purée from a sugar pumpkin* or from canned pumpkin purée
  • 1 1/2 cup heavy cream or 1 12 oz. can of evaporated milk
  • 1/2 cup packed dark brown sugar
  • 1/3 cup white sugar
  • 1/2 teaspoon salt
  • 2 eggs plus the yolk of a third egg
  • 2 teaspoons of cinnamon
  • 1 teaspoon ground ginger
  • 1/4 teaspoon ground nutmeg
  • 1/4 teaspoon ground cloves
  • 1/4 teaspoon ground cardamon
  • 1/2 teaspoon of lemon zest
  • 1 good crust (see pâte brisée recipe)

* To make pumpkin purée from a sugar pumpkin: start with a small-medium sugar pumpkin, cut out the stem and scrape out the insides, discard (save the seeds, of course). Cut into sections and steam in a saucepan with a couple inches of water at the bottom, until soft. Scoop out the pulp from the skin. Or you can bake whole or halved in a 350°F oven until fork tender. Optional - put pulp through a food mill or chinois to make extra smooth.

Method

1 Preheat oven to 425°F.

2 Mix sugars, salt, and spices, and lemon zest in a large bowl. Beat the eggs and add to the bowl. Stir in the pumpkin purée. Stir in cream. Whisk all together until well incorporated.

3 Pour into pie shell and bake at 425°F for 15 minutes. After 15 minutes reduce the temperature to 350°F. Bake 40-50 minutes, or until a knife inserted near the center comes out clean.

4 Cool on a wire rack for 2 hours.

Serve with whipped cream. Serves 8.

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36 Comments

When we make pumpkin pie from scratch we usually just use the regular old pumpkin we have sitting outside with the corn stalks for decoration. Is a sugar pumpkin those smaller ones you see on sale that are advertised as "pie pumpkins?"

Would a regular pumpkin do just as well--or--is there such a difference in taste it would be wiser to buy a pie pumpkin? Thanks.

Posted by: Deb on October 31, 2005 6:13 AM

I enjoyed reading this post. I tried making a pumpkin pie from scratch once, but I used the regular old pumpkin that people typically carve. Perhaps it was too big, or not the "sugar" type. Anyway the pie flesh was quite stringy and the pulp had a yucky consistency. Probably I baked the pie as I would any other squash, and that was not the right technique either. Anyway it was good to see how it is supposed to be done! By the way Trader Joe's also sells an organic canned pumpkin puree.
cheerio--Andrea

Posted by: Andrea on November 2, 2005 9:00 AM

Hi Elise, I made this pie out of our jack-o-lantern (a huge sugar pie pumpkin). It was the first time I've made pumpkin pie out of a whole pumpkin and it was actually pretty easy and turned out beautifully. My husband said it was the best pumpkin pie he's ever had!

Posted by: Stephanie on November 2, 2005 9:31 AM

Hi Deb - I am told that one should make pumpkin pie with the sugar pumpkins - the ones advertised as "pie pumpkins." That said, I've made pumpkin pies with the leftovers from pumpkin carvings and they turned out great.

Hi Andrea - I would imagine that some of the bigger carving pumpkins have pretty tough flesh. But if you get rid of the strings and cook it long enough, maybe that would work. Good call on the TJ's organic purée. Thanks!

Hi Stephanie - Excellent. Congrats on making your own scratch pie, and three cheers for the husband who liked it.

Posted by: Elise on November 5, 2005 9:43 AM

I've used regular pumpkins any size for years. All you need to do is cut the pumpkin in half scoop out the seeds and extra strings. Place the halves flesh side down on a cookie sheet. Make sure you use one with sides to trap the moisture that will render. Bake in a 350 degree oven until fork tender. I use a serving fork for that job. Remove cookie sheet from oven let set to cool slightly. Next take a metal serving spoon and scrape out the cooked pumpkin. If you find some of the pumpkin seems too firm just put it in a microwave safe dish and cook longer till tender. When ready put the pumpkin in a food processor. Run processor to get an even consistency. We usually take ziplock bags and measure out the proportions needed for recipes and freeze. We also date and put the volume amount on the bags for future baking. When the pumpkin puree defrost you will find alot of fluid, we just drain it off and use as is. The work goes fairly fast because my wife and I worked out a routine for this kitchen ritual.

Posted by: Tom on November 11, 2005 6:28 PM

THis is great..I am not a fan of the sugary pumkin pie. I used this amount of sugar (almost a cup) for 4 cups of canned pumpkin that was unseasoned.

Posted by: C on November 12, 2005 12:55 PM

In our area the Amish swear by "neck pumpkins", which look like butternut squash with a longer neck, for making pies. They are delicious.
And recently I read that the canned pumpkin sold by Libby's is actually a form of butternut squash.
So that just goes to show that whatever squash you like the taste of will work, but I think fresher is definitely better.

Posted by: Suzi on November 13, 2006 6:57 AM

I will try to translate the recipe in French. Ca m'a l'air délicieux.

Posted by: Grignote et Barbotine on November 13, 2006 3:19 PM

I plan to make this recipe for Thanksgiving using butternut squash instead of pumpkin. I prefer butternut because it is never watery and it has more flavor than most pumpkins. Kabocha makes a nice pumpkin pie too.

Posted by: Christine form San Jose on November 15, 2006 2:43 PM

Penzey's Spices has a *wonderful* Pumpkin Pie Spice
http://www.penzeys.com/cgi-bin/penzeys/shophome.html

They have awesome everything actually - I've basically made over my spice drawer after discovering them! I'll never be able to buy "grocery store spices" again! :)

I'll have to keep my eye out for sugar pumpkins next year, it is probably too late this year, but I'd love to try making a pie from scratch.
p.s. if you want to add a little "spice" to a regular canned pumpkin pie recipe, try using egg nog instead of condensed milk - adds a nice hint of nutmeg flavor to the pie.

Posted by: Liz on November 22, 2006 7:28 AM

Another good spice is sold by the Pampered Chef. It is called Cinnamon Plus. Yum! Not sure what is in it, though, but when we run out I definitely hear about it.

Posted by: Dianna on November 22, 2006 9:01 PM

I'm looking for a old fashion pumpkin recipe that has dark brown sugar and molasses in it. I thought it was on the libby cans back in the 60's but I lost my recipe. It was a heavy pie not a custard pie like todays pies.

Posted by: Naomi Daugherty on November 23, 2006 6:37 AM

I've always used sugar pumpkins and wouldn't do it any other way. They make the best pumpkin pie with an original taste and impress my guests always. I get many compliments on the flavor, you can actually taste the natural pumpkin flavor and are not overwhelmed by all the spices. The recipe creates a very creamy and delicious pie. Don't be discouraged and try it again. Make sure to get a small sweet pumpkin, I get mine from the local farm but you can get them at certain grocery stores, I know Haggen's and Alberstons carry them at certain times throughout the year.

Posted by: Kasia on November 23, 2006 7:58 AM

I will never bake another pumpkin pie from the can again. We used the recommended sugar pumpkins, and I put them through a food mill, which made it very smooth. Also, since we did not have ground cardamom, we used the seeds and ground them ourselves. I think that added to the flavor. Worth the effort. And that crust, I have never made a good pie crust but today I definitely did.

Posted by: Karin on November 23, 2006 11:26 AM

Thanks Elise for a wonderful pumpkin pie recipe! I love pumpkin pie, and tried NUMEROUS recipes, but this one may be my favorite. It was a big hit this Thanksgiving, and I think the lemon zest was a great touch.

Posted by: Lisa on November 24, 2006 8:14 AM

I made this recipe and doubled it--I filled two crusts and two piepans without a crust. so this is for two pies! It was DELISH! A little sugarier than I like but very very GOOD and I am a pumpkin pie fanatic--one of the best I ever ate!!! I made it from a pumpkin my neighbor grew which was about 11 inches tall with a fine texture and a very bright orange color. PS I didn't have cloves so added some chinese five star spice. JUST RIGHT!!!! great bright color and glossy top, nice texture. YUMMM!!!!!

Posted by: happy cooker on December 3, 2006 9:11 PM

Wow! I made this pumpkin pie recipe with a Cinderella pumpkin. I cut it in half and put it in the oven. Scraped it and pureed it. I have never made a pumpkin pie from scratch, and let me tell you my family loved it. Great recipe!

Posted by: Claudia on November 5, 2007 6:59 PM

I`m from Europe and ever since I first tried pumpkin pie, I have been a fan. This year I finally got to bake my own from scratch! Thank you so much, dear Elise! It came out just the way I like it! My family loved it too.

Posted by: Agota on November 6, 2007 4:36 PM

I like to make 2 desserts for Thxgiving, one has to use pumpkin, the other apple. Thxgiving tends to be very busy the actual day you make the turkey, so to free up time, I try to make one of the desserts the day before. This is a decadent alternative to pumpkin pie and is as smooth as silk, melts in your mouth.


PUMPKIN POT DE CRÈME

Ingredients:

500 ml (2 cups) whipping cream
1/3 cup sugar, divided
5 egg yolks
1 tsp cinnamon
1/4 tsp each of ginger, nutmeg and cloves
1 tsp dark rum
1/2 vanilla bean
1 cup pumpkin puree (not pumpie pie filling)
½ cup toasted pecans
¼ cup maple syrup

1. Put the whipping cream, two thirds of the sugar, the spices and the pumpkin puree in a medium sized saucepan. Slit the vanilla bean vertically and scrape out the seeds. Add the seeds and the vanilla pod to the cream mixture. On medium low heat, slowly bring the custard mixture to a simmer. Add the rum. Cover and let sit for 15 minutes to allow the flavors to meld.

2. Beat the egg yolks with the remaining third of sugar. Add one or two ladles of the custard to the beaten yolks and mix well. Add the egg yolk mixture back to the remaining custard. Stir well. Turn on heat and cook custard mixture a further 3 to 5 minutes, just to the simmer. Strain the custard mixture.

3. Oven should be pre-heated to 325F. Put your ramekins in a shallow rectangular pan. Divide the pumpkin custard evenly among 6 ramekins. Pour boiling water half way up the sides of the ramekins, cover loosely with a sheet of foil and bake.

4. Start checking the custards after 25 minutes. They should take anywhere from 25 to 40 minutes to bake. They should still have a “jiggle” in the center about the size of a dime. Do not fully bake the custards.

5. Remove the pan from the oven. The custards should be kept in the hot water in the baking pan for a further half an hour. The sheet of foil should still be loosely on top as well. After half an hour, the custards should have finished baking and there will no longer be a jiggle area in the center. Remove the foil cover being careful not to drip water from the foil on the custards. Remove the ramekins from the hot water and cool at room temperature a further half an hour. Now cover each ramekin with saran and refrigerate over night or up to 2 days.

6. Toast pecans at 350F for 10 minutes and coarsely chop. To serve, sprinkle each pot de crème with some chopped pecans, then put on a dollop of whipped cream, sift a bit of cocoa and cinnamon over the whipped cream, top with a truffle covered coffee bean and if desired, drizzle with 1 tsp of maple syrup.

Posted by: Jeanette on November 14, 2007 11:46 AM

I made this recipe according to the version that was listed here just last week (11/17/07), which recommended use of the Trader Joe's pumpkin pie spice. I'm so glad you pulled that recommendation off of this recipe because 1.5 TABLESPOONS of that stuff turned the custard part of the pie brown and completely obscured the taste of the pumpkin in the pie. There was so much spice in the pie, in fact, that the consistency of the custard was almost grainy. It was a huge disappointment both visually and taste-wise to my guests. Again, I'm glad to see that the Trader Joe's spice rec was taken down, but 3.75 tsp. of the various spices listed now still seems like quite a lot (1.5 TBSP = 4.5 tsp).

Posted by: lilitake on November 23, 2007 9:45 AM

I have been making pies for 60 years. I find that if you use sweet potatoes just as you would pumpkin and go ahead and make a pie that it is much milder and doesn't give you heartburn like regular pumpkin pie does. Also as an older person I like the pies without all that spice in them. Make up the filling and just put vanilla in them and a small amount of nutmeg on top. My mother in law made them and they were just a light yellow in color. They were delicious.

Posted by: Sylvis Thomas on October 14, 2008 9:56 PM

Can the pumpkin be added the the filling hot? If not when should it be cooled?

Posted by: Derrick on November 1, 2008 1:47 PM

Made this the other day with canned puree - sort of a pre-Thanksgiving trial run!! The crust was the best I've ever made (and tasted). The spices seemed a little strong - the adults liked it but the kids not so much. Adding more homemade whipped cream to theirs helped;). Maybe next time I will adjust the spices a bit?

Posted by: Kelly on November 6, 2008 8:14 AM

The pies are great. I love this site, thank you for sharing your recipes. I have made the pumpkin pies the last two thanksgivings.

One question - when I take the pies out of the oven, they look beautiful, but several hours later after it is cooled, it looks like the pie separates from the crust. Why does it do that? Am I overcooking the pies?

Hi Cassie, great question for which I do not know the answer. I suspect Cook's Illustrated has addressed this in one of their issues, but I don't know which one. If anyone reading this has some insight on this question, please feel free to weigh in. ~Elise

Posted by: cassie on November 22, 2008 8:56 AM

For those who might want to make this with other than pumpkin - try Hubbard squash. They are the large (sometimes huge!) grayish-skinned, warty squash at farmer's markets and in some groceries. They have an orange flesh that tastes a bit richer than butternut. Roast like other winter squash. Great in all your squash recipes, and I've found it doesn't get quite as watery when you freeze it.
Recipe sounds delish, BTW! I will be making it this week for my son's birthday. Wanted a recipe that didn't use evap. milk.

Posted by: J Mitchener on December 1, 2008 3:49 AM

Thanks for the recipe! I made it tonight with some pumpkin leftover from Thanksgiving's pumpkin creme brulee, and it was really good with a nice consistency. I didn't have a deep-dish pie pan so I used one of the large ones from the big Costco pies we get in a weak moment and the whole recipe fit nicely.

I was a little disappointed with the crust, as it came out of the food processor way too powdery initially, and I think with my having to add more water while patting it into shape it became a little tough. Next time I might try a crust with shortening to see if that's a little easier to work.

Posted by: Jeanine on December 3, 2008 3:21 AM

Thanks for posting this great recipe, as well as the Pâte Brisée recipe; I used them multiple times over the holidays and both turned out great! I do have to say that for the first time I made the pie, the only lemons I had were Meyers from my neighbor's tree. This gave it an odd aftertaste and the next time I made the pie I used the same quantity of vanilla (1/2t) and it was delicious. I don't know if I will ever want to take the chance on lemons again, even if I do have regular non-Meyer ones, as I made it again with vanilla and it was fantastic.

Also I should say that I am a fanatic about nutrition, so I wanted to use unrefined flour and sugar. My pie crust was made with sprouted/dried/milled whole wheat flour with 1/3 of it hard red wheat (bread wheat) and 2/3 of it a soft pastry wheat. It was out of this world; flaky, delicate and delicious. I think that the problems people have baking with whole wheat are threefold: they use bread flour, it's not fresh (milled whole grains go rancid very quickly) and they don't sprout or soak it before milling. You can get Summer's Sprouted Flours if you don't have your own mill, and keep them in the freezer so they don't go rancid. I used Rapunzel Rapadura unrefined sugar for the sweetener and used a total of 3/4 cup (instead of split between brown sugar and white sugar as listed above).

Finally, if you click on the "recommended reading" link above to Shuna Fish Lydon's blog, there is a link there to a recipe for homemade pop-tarts, and these are what I made from the leftover dough. Yum!

Posted by: Barrie Cook on January 20, 2009 12:51 PM

I have made this pumpkin pie for the past 4 years for many different occasions and it is without a doubt the best! There is never any left over and I keep getting asked to make it again and again! The only things I change is I add double the spices (I'm just nuts about spicy fall flavors) and I don't like the pie crust recipe from this site that is linked (somewhat bland), but the consistency of this pumpkin pie is absolutely PERFECT, and that's what I think usually makes or breaks the recipe. I think it might be that extra egg yolk but I love the recipe too much to mess with it and find out!
If you are a first time pumpkin pie baker...just use this recipe exactly with a store-bought deep-dish pie shell and canned pumpkin and you will have nothing to worry about. Comes out perfect every time with no stress involved! I even made it in a toaster oven once in a dorm room! DON'T use the condensed milk recipes like on the back of the pumpkin can...there really is no comparison!

Posted by: noe on October 22, 2009 7:20 PM

Pumpkin pies made with fresh sugar pumpkin puree are simply the best. To get the smoothest texture, puree the flesh in a food processor while it's still warm until it's smooth. If you want it really silky strain it after processing. If you don't have a processor, but the pulp through a food mill.

The most common reason why the filling separates from the crust is that the crust is too warm when the filling is poured in. The crust should be cool, not warm. Another reason is over baking. It's important to fully pre-bake the crust before filling it, so the filling doesn't over bake while your waiting for the crust to brown.

To pre-bake: Freeze the crust for at least 30 minutes in the pie plate; line the crust with foil or a large 1.5 or 3 gallon coffee filter and fill it with dried beans; bake at 450 for 15 minutes to set the crust; then turn down the oven to 400 and bake for another 10 minutes. Remove the crust from the oven, remove the liner with the beans and bake unlined for another 6-10 minutes until the crust is fully baked and lightly browned all over.

Don't over bake the custard! The custard should just set with just a smidgen of a wobble in the very center. It will finish baking as it cools. If the pie cracks on the surface or pulls away from the crust, it's over baked.

For the best pumpkin flavor I only use either granulated or demerara sugar, if I want a very light brown sugar note. I also lightly spice the custard base with just really good cinnamon and freshly grated nutmeg (about 20 strokes on a microplane). I also liberally season w/ salt (about 2 tsp of kosher salt for 2 cups of pumpkin). If you don't use enough salt, not only will it be bland, but the pumpkin will end up taking on a bitter note during baking (which is usually covered by spices, but when spices are not used or lightly used, the bitterness is noticeable, so salt is necessary!)

I think it's a crime against pumpkin pie to use anything below half and half. If you don't want to use heavy cream, AT LEAST use half and half. Evaporated milk does not do this pie justice.

Posted by: Roxanne on October 28, 2009 5:13 PM

I tried this recipe for the first time yesterday, doubling the ingredients for 2 pies. Even though I did not follow it exactly (I cheated on the spices, using McCormick's Pumpkin Pie Spice, & used store-bought graham pie crusts - I'm a novice baker, so the idea of baking pie crusts was daunting), the pies were a tremendous success. My boyfriend's mom who is a talented cook even marveled at how delicious the pie turned out. I can't wait to try this next year w/ homemade crusts!

P.S. The part I didn't skimp on was using fresh pumpkin from a local farm. Although it was laborious, it was well worth the effort.

Posted by: Carmen on October 31, 2009 8:30 AM

I want to try this, but do I need to pre bake my pie crust(it is handmade)?

No, not with this recipe. No pre-baking. ~Elise

Posted by: Sarah Whitney on November 7, 2009 8:55 PM

I used this recipe to use up my left over pumpkins from Halloween. This recipe was excellent and worked pefect with my homemade curst! The best thing about this recipe was the large amount of spices. It made all the difference compared to a regular pumpkin pie recipe!

Posted by: Katie on November 23, 2009 5:27 AM

If I make the crust from scratch (from your recommended recipe), do I need to bake the crust at all before placing the pie mixture inside?

Typically no, but I suppose you could if you wanted to. ~Elise

Posted by: patti on November 24, 2009 1:04 PM

I have learned about cans being lined with hormone mimicking BPA plastic and so am now making my pies from fresh pumpkin. Thanks so much for the recipe! :)

Posted by: Sal on November 26, 2009 7:50 AM

Elise, this is the new - and permanent - favorite pumpkin pie recipe for our family - thank you! I had cooked, mashed, and frozen a pie pumpkin about a month ago and was looking for a recipe to use it in that was just a bit different from the usual. When I saw the list of spices in this one, I knew I had to try it. My husband is not usually too excited about pumpkin pie, but he had three slices of this one. And my 79 year old dad, who loves any kind of pie, called me at home 20 minutes after I dropped off a few servings for him to taste, telling me it was the best he'd ever had and to please make this again for Christmas! That's high praise from dad, as my grandmother (his mom) made the best pies I've had yet. Thank you for an easy and delicious recipe.

Posted by: susan on November 27, 2009 3:09 PM

ELise, This looks soooo good, but I am a very green cook I have never made a pie in my life. I just made your (Pâte Brisée) pie crust Recipe for this pie and it is chilling right now!! My husband and me are having a bit of a disagreement, you said that the pie crust doesn't need to be per baked, but he says if I don't per bake the crust will be soggy and we both hate soggy curst!! Could you please clear this up for us *SS* Thanks

We don't pre-bake the crust for pumpkin pie, but you can if you want. ~Elise

Posted by: Sarah Whitney on December 14, 2009 3:29 PM

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